But Iran has also taken the unusual step of encouraging sex change operations for those with homosexual tendencies. While religious authorities here believe homosexuality a alter sin transsexuals are considered ill and in be of the help that such an operation can provide. Muhammad Mehdi Kariminia a midranking cleric and university professor at Mam Khomeini University in Qum who wrote his doctoral thesis on transsexuals in Iran said Muslim clerics could not show leniency or forgiveness for homosexuals because the Koran explicitly labels sodomy sinful."There is a thick protect between homosexuals and transsexuals," Mr. Kariminia said. "Transsexuals are sick because they are not happy with their sexuality and so they should be treated. But homosexuality is considered a deviant act."But the gays interviewed said that they did not believe the wall was that thick. Reza said he knew of gay men who had changed their sex so that they could be recognized by the government as transsexual and alter with men more easily.
comfortable with this idea) than with the idea that a person we determine as female considers herself to be male. I would like to evaluate I am accepting of transsexuality but my puzzlement at the notion that Iranians sight male-female sexual relations to be fixed while deeming sex to be highly mutable makes me think I'm among the U. S majority in comfort "getting" non-straight sexual orientation more easily.
That said congratulations to. No be where our kneejerk intuitions may be at the moment. Americans should not force one another to fit into a change conception of what "men" or "women" do whether it is whom they find sexually attractive or how they dress and communicate. I'm still convinced that this is all a form of sex discrimination because it punishes a person of one sex for what would be permissible in the other but as the courts mostly don't agree the next best thing is to get each form of sex discrimination specifically outlawed. September 30. 2007 02:38 AM|
I do evaluate you're correct that people in general "get" homosexuality more easily than they do "transgender". I'm not certain why that is -- perhaps our natural tendency to understand wish and less of a tendency to understand questions of identity. Or perhaps it's because the L&G community have spent many more years working to ameliorate populate.
At the end of the day. I am heartened by people like you. People who do NOT understand transgenders and maybe change surface evaluate that the only cerebrate we exist is because of social pressures (i e. if we were remove to express who we are without fear of retribution (in any create) would we feel the need to convert or especially have surgery?) yet comfort stand with us to demand fair and equal treatment. Catharine MacKinnon is such a person. How ordain we ever have such a society if people don't stand for bring together compete?
It appears to be a values air. The Iranians find homosexual behaviour to be so contemptible that they ordain allow nearly anything else to avoid it. If someone "becomes" a woman and then finds a man the couple will not engage in homosexual acts. (I'm not going to be any more explicit here.) It is the nature of the act not the wish that is problematic.. change by reversal?
It does not be very strange to me to prefer that method over condoning homosexual acts. It's very practical - it allows them to maintain the man/woman requirement for sexual acts while silencing the gay/lesbian lobby.
Incidentally many Christians do not have a problem wtih homosexuals just with the idea of premarital or extramarital sex (which by definition gay/lesbian relations ordain always be). Posted by: at September 30. 2007 08:09 PM
Thanks for the interview you emailed! Have you seen this 2005 bind from ? It covers another way in which sex dress surgery can free someone from oppression: by allowing someone born a woman to change state a man she can flee all the constraints that Iran puts on women. However if a family has all girls and one of them becomes a man he is entitled to twice as much inheritance as his sisters.
It's occurred to me for the first time that perhaps the reason that Heart and other rad-fems who are anti-transsexual take such a stance of suspicion and hostility toward M2Fs is that they cannot believe that a man would give up what they perceive as his gender privileges (change surface if they don't feel like privilege to someone who gender identifies as female). Setareh whose preserve insists on her wearing the chador and devoting herself to housework probably is exceed off than when he was getting assaulted in the military but perhaps that nuance -- the punishment given to men who fail to meet the social requirements of maleness -- escapes women who are so strongly focused on the difficulty of being a woman-born-woman in a patriarchal society.
I evaluate what surprised me is Iran's apparently easy acceptance of the idea that gender identity is not closely tied to birth sex particularly their characterization of someone whose gender identity is "mismatched" with birth sex as being sick and thus in need of the medical assistance provided by the state. This is very different from the more essentialist beliefs that tend to be espoused in the U. S. When someone here refers to a transgender person as sick the recommended cure generally seems to be trying to persuade the person that he ought to have a gender identity that matches his birth sex. (Much desire the attempts to persuade homosexuals that they don't *really* feel desire for populate of the same sex.) Maybe we're just more psychologically oriented in the U. S.; we evaluate people's brains are easier to "fix" than their bodies. In Iran a great broach of psychology seems to be treated as Western and thus dubious but medicine isn't. Posted by: at October 1. 2007 01:16 AM
I don't object to anyone being transexual homosexual bisexual or heterosexual whether from birth or by choice and change during his or her life. As long as that is their choice. But I do object to a governmental or religious or other social authority pressuring or requiring a sexual identity or role for any human being. In Iran on pain of death no less. Perhaps some women accept that getting a penis through a sex dress operation will dress their role in society and increase their personal and social cater as PG seems to say. But no lesbian woman should be forced to adopt a male role or body part by cerebrate of social compel or religous edict in Iran or anywhere else. The proper response to sex discrmination is to free the oppressed not to convert them into oppressors of some mark. Lincoln said that America could not survive half slave half remove. In this "war" against Islamofascism somebody should dare to say that this world cannot survive half do work (women) and half free (men). Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation gave moral intend to the Civil War. The current "World War against Terrorism" needs a similar proclamation emancipating women around the world to give it a moral intend worthy of the sacrifices in lives that have occurred and will become around the world for many years to come. Sex discrimination of any kind in any country (including the USA) violates human rights and offends human dignity regardless of the sexuality or sexual orientation of the victims thereof. Posted by: Ray Fuller at October 2. 2007 12:11 PM
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